About Words with Winos


Marilyn with Sveti Stefan, Montenegro


Matt in Zadar, Croatia

Words with Winos is a travel podcast/blog/vlog comprised of two twenty-something Americans, Matt and Marilyn, who love long-term traveling. During our podcast episodes, we choose a travel-related topic and engage in an unplanned and 100% honest conversation. While we talk, we also drink an entire bottle of wine and can't finish the episode until the bottle is empty!

We also have a blog and a vlog. Matt is a very talented videographer, so we create well-planned, shot, and edited videos of our travels! Since I enjoy writing, I (Marilyn) also compose blog posts, both about our podcasts and not!

But, how did all of this begin?

We met through Matt's sister when we were in our junior year of college. We connected almost instantly and became a couple. When senior year was drawing to a close, both of us did not enjoy applying for career jobs. In fact, we loathed it and we loathed the idea of actually starting to work at a mundane desk job. Matt wanted to travel, but I (Marilyn) was too nervous to do so. So, we continued to apply to jobs neither of us even wanted.

One evening, I had a dream of both of us backpacking through Europe and I loved the overall feeling of doing that, even when I woke up. I couldn't shake it and knew I had to tell Matt. Once I did, he seized the moment and mentioned that we could do that, but since Europe is expensive, we couldn't backpack through it right then. However, we could potentially live in a different country and work as English teachers.

I wasn't totally sold on the idea. It sounded way too easy and good to be true, not to mention nerve-wracking. Then, Matt threw the idea out there that we could do teach English in Thailand. Once I looked up pictures of the country, I was immediately sold. After graduation and the summer, in October, 2014, we embarked on our first international flight to Thailand.

We taught English in Thailand for six months and absolutely loved (almost) every minute of it! However, those societal (and familial) expectations loomed and lingered over my head. I told Matt that I wanted to try to work and teach in the U.S. for a bit. We went home after Thailand, applied for jobs teaching children from lower income families, and got jobs in San Jose, California.

We arrived in San Jose in the beginning of July, 2015, sharing a house with a girl who worked at the same place we were going to work. After just a week of talking with her about the job and being in San Jose, the itch to travel abroad grew and was too intense to ignore. Yes, that's right-- just one week was enough for us! We ditched our idea of working in San Jose and applied for jobs teaching English in South Korea. Within days, we got jobs! We only had the room in the house for a month, so we had to quickly gather our paperwork for the job (criminal background checks, etc.). We actually managed to do everything we needed in the nick of time!

Then, we headed back to New York to kill some time before starting our jobs in Sejong, South Korea. In September, 2015, we flew to South Korea and started our second teaching English jobs.

 Us in Busan, South Korea

Us in Busan, South Korea

Since then, we have fallen deeply in love with travel and have no urge or desire to stop. Travel has given our lives excitement and joy that living a "typical" American life couldn't possibly give us. We love that we have a lifestyle where we can live and travel abroad, work, and enjoy our lives, each other, and the world. 

If you couldn't tell already, we love traveling and talking to anyone about our travels who is interested! So far, we have lived in and visited twenty-six countries: the USA, Canada, Thailand, South Korea, Vietnam, Laos, Japan, Taiwan, Poland, Croatia, Spain, Hungary, The Netherlands, Ireland, Italy, Norway, Germany, the Czech Republic, Austria, Bosnia and Herzegovina, Slovenia, Serbia, Montenegro, Romania, Bulgaria, and China.

World Map Words with Winos

What are we like personally?

We're both fun, relaxed, sarcastic, and optimistic people. We love to travel (can you tell?) and just overall enjoy life. We only have one, after all. Might as well make the most out of it!

Matt is a generally happy, laid back, and adventure-seeking individual. He enjoys spending most of his days editing our videos and podcasts. Although he puts a lot of effort into those, nothing gets more effort from him than his fantasy baseball and football teams! He can be quiet at first, but once you get to know him, he is the definition of quirky, hilarious, and charismatic!

As for me (Marilyn), I am bubbly, adventurous, and outgoing. Nothing peaks my interest more than food and I'm constantly on the hunt for a good meal. Exercising is important to me, whether it's yoga, running, or weightlifting. Currently, I'm learning Spanish and I love the rush I get when I speak a full sentence with no errors! 

Oh, and we both enjoy drinking wine. Duh!

Why did we start "Words with Winos" podcast?

We started a podcast to share our experiences living and working abroad with anyone who wants to listen and could gain something from our experiences. We also want to encourage the development of a community with other travelers and want-to-be travelers. In our podcast episodes, however, we added a bit of a twist. Instead of simply talking about our travels, we added a bottle of wine into the mix. While discussing our experiences and adventures, we drink a bottle of wine to add a bit of an extra flair to our conversations. That, and we want to always make sure our listeners are aware that we only tell the truth. We don't add fluff, we don't keep it G-rated, and we are always brutally honest about our experiences. Adding a bottle of wine into each conversation definitely helps make that apparent!

Why did we start a blog and vlog, too?

This blog, which is mostly run by Marilyn, is dedicated to various pictures, videos, and other thoughts we may have had during our travels to give you a visual side to our lives alongside the audio. As for our vlog, Matt has always had a special talent and joy for creating and editing videos. We both felt we should have videos to document our travels as well!

So, there you have it: Words with Winos became a travel podcast, blog, and vlog!

If you'd like to learn more about us, have a listen to the episode below where we interview each other!

Thanks for stopping by! Don't be afraid to contact us for any questions or comments or if you want to be a guest on our show by shooting us an email at wordswithwinos(at)gmail(dot)com!

 The two of us in Salzburg, Austria!

The two of us in Salzburg, Austria!

Current location: Shenzhen, China